Auction Details - AUCTION ALREADY HELD
Philatelic Auction (Public Auction Sale 753)
Auctioneer: Warwick & Warwick Location: Lord Leycester Hotel, Jury Street, Warwick, CV34 4EJ
Contact: Tel. Warwick (01926) 499031 Fax (01926) 491906
Date: 5th November 2014 Time: 12:00PM
Details: Viewing:
Friday 31st October, 2014 9.00 a.m. - 4.30 p.m.
Monday 3rd November, 2014 9.00 a.m. - 4.30 p.m.
Tuesday 4th November, 2014 9.00 a.m. - 4.30 p.m.
Wednesday 5th November, 2014 8.30 a.m. - onwards
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Auction Lots - Page 12
550
Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image... West Germany 1951-2 Posthorn coln on leaves incl complete set M, extra vals incl 50pf, 60pf and 80pf M, FU set x10, covers x30 with various combinations. (See photos). (R) £400
551
  Germany ETB dupl accum, with West Germany 1974-90 & Berlin 1977-86. (B) £75
552
  Modern West Germany, Berlin and Federal Republic loose commems accum FU on pieces, issues from 1970s to around 2001, colourful lot with many Charity sets etc. STC £2180 (½B) £38
553
  West Berlin UM/FU coln in stockbook with some dupl, with better, incl 1949 UPU vals UM to 2D, 1950 ERP 20p with FDI cancel, 1951-2 Bells set FU, 1952 Olympic trio UM+FU, 1953 Uprising pair UM+FU(3), 1955 Furtwangler 40p in UM block of 4 (UM+FU), continuing to 1968. (V) £140
554
  West Berlin. Coln in album, incl some better earlier FU with 1949 UPU set to 60pf, 1953 Bells set, comprehensive M/UM from around 1961 to 1990. (V) £50
555
Click to view full image... Danzig 1920 60 on 30pf with var ovpt double, FU. (SG 19a) Cat £425 (See photo) (S) £120
556
  Danzig 1920 60 on 30pf with var ovpt double, M. (SG 19a) Cat £120 (F) £30
557
  Danzig 1924-38 35pf blue, frame break by "D" var, FU. With normal for comparison. (Mi 215II) Cat €300 (S) £28
558
  Saar. Mint collection in stockbook, a little light duplication in parts, condition is a little mixed but with better vals noted and some dealer/expert marks noted, with 1920 (Jan-March) set M/unused (80pf x 2), (March 3rd) set to 10m (faults) M, (April-Oct) vals to 4m M, 1921 to 10m (2) and 25m (3) M, Surch set with 3f (3) and 5f (3) M, 1922 set to 5f M with later colours, 1925 Madonna M, 1926 Welfare o.g., 1926-32 vals to 5f M, 1927 welfare ovpt set M, 1929 Xmas set M, 1931 (Dec) Xmas Charity set M, 1932 air 5f M, 1933 Neunkirchen M, 1934 Xmas M, Pleb ovpt sets M, officials from 1922-24 set M, 1927-34 vals to 2f M, then M/UM from 1947 incl 1948 to 200f, Flood Relief, 1949 Horse Day (2), 1949 Relief set, 1949-51 to 100f, various Stamp Day issues, Europa, RX issues, 1952-5 to 500f, 1949 officials, etc to 1956. Popular material, worth checking. (V) £700

GREECE

559
  Early to modern mint and used collection in large stockbook incl useful early range with Hermes Heads, 1911-23 Recess vals to 10d FU, 1912-13 Balkan War ovpts in red on recess issues to 2d, 5d (signed Diena) and 10d FU, 1927-35 Original and re-engraved sets FU, 1930 Centenary 50d M, 1933 Zeppelin set UM and FU, Aeroespresso set UM, Air Govt set M, 1951 Reconstruction set UM, 1953 Products M, 1955 Defins UM, 1956 and 1957 Royal Family sets UM, 1958 Greek Coins UM(2), and later issues to 1989. (V) £500
560
  Misc duplicated accum in 4 stockbooks and on stockleaves, mint and used and needs sorting, but useful content ideal for dealer, note 1896 Olympic vals to 60l M and 2l FU, 1900-01 surch vals M/FU, 1901 vals to 5d M (2), 1930 Cent set M/FU (2), 1954 Enosis M/FU (2), 1939 75th Anniv M, 1930 Monastery M, 1946 Restoration surch set M, 1902 Hermes FU, 1922 to 100d FU, 1935 Mythology air set M, 1933 Zep set FU, 1927-35 vals to 25d M, 1927 Liberation M, 1955 issue Art vals to 4d UM, 1926 airs M, 1955 Pythagoras FU, 1952 Anti-Communist FU, 1922 ovpt vals M, 1927 Navarino M, 1932 surch set M, etc. Good lot, worth checking. (½B) £400
561
  Early to middle misc range of better items and sets on two stockpages, with 1900-01 5l on 1d M/o.g. (4) and FU (2), 50l on 2d o.g., 1906 Olympic 2d FU, 1912-13 Greek Admin ovpt vals incl scarce 25d M, 1926 Air set M and FU, 1933 air 50d indigo and brown M, 1951 St Paul M, 1954 Art set to 20,000d UM, Enosis M, 1955 issue vals to 4d UM, 1961 Tourist Publicity UM, also range of Crete mainly M etc. Worth checking. (R) £300
562
  Early to middle period collection in album incl useful early range from Hermes Heads, 1901-2 to 5d M or FU, 1902 Postage Due set M, 1913-15 Victory vals to 3d FU, 1926 Air set M, 1927-35 to 25d FU, 1927-8 Centenary set FU, 1930 Centenary set M, 1933 Zeppelin set M, Airoespresso set M and later issues to 1943. (L) £100
563
Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image... Early semi-specialised coln with fine range of imperf Mercury issues mostly full marg, better canc, multiples, from 1861 Paris print vals (8), incl 10l with large control no., 40l & 80l, Athens print (90) from 1861-2 type I 5l pair, 40l, 1862-7 2nd Athens vals to 80l, 1870 1l, Belgian print, 1889-95 Athens, also 1900-01 Olympic surch vals to 1d on 5d. Ideal for specialist. (See photos) (R) £700
564
  1954 Enosis set UM. (SG 728-33) Cat £150 (F) £24
565
Click to view full image... Crete: Russian Administration. 1899 2m green (2), with stars, used on neat cover to Sicily. Flap missing but most attractive. (See photo) (F) £50
566
  Crete. M/FU coln on leaves incl 1898 Military Mail soldier's letter to England, 1900 Prov. Ovpts in black vals to 5d og, Revolutionary Assembly 1905 FU, 1908 ovpts incl vals to 5d M, ovpt inv, ovpt double, 1909 vals to 5d M, Austro-Hungary PO's French Currency incl 1902-3 vals to 5f M, 1903 set to 20pi on 5f M (1pi on 25c is FU), Brit Admin, Italian PO's incl 1906 10c lake and 5L blue and rose FU, Russian Admin, etc. (L) £650
567
Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image... Dodecanese Is. Mainly M coln in Lighthouse binder incl (M unless stated) Italian Occupation Egeo 1912 25c and 50c both M and FU, 1935 Holy Year set incl unissued 5L, 1929-32 without imprint 5L and 10L, 1930 Hydro set og heavy h/r's, 1931 Congress set, 1934 Football Postage set, Military Medal Postage and Airs set, 1943 Relief Postage set incl 25c ovpt inv, 1930 Balbo, 1944 (July) War Victims set, 1932 Garibaldi sets with Calimno, Caso (odd tone spot), Calchi FU, Lero, Lisso, Nisiro FU, Patmo (odd tone spot), Piscopi (tone spots), Rodi FU, Scarpanto (tone spots), Stampalia FU, also 1932 Garibaldi air set and Express pair FU. (See photos) (V) £1,000

GUATEMALA

568
Click to view full image... 1898 2c on fiscal 10c slate blue, surch double in both scarlet and black, o.g., Adhesion but scarce. (SG 93a) Cat £160 (See photo) (F) £30

HOLYLAND

569
  Holy Land. Interesting mint/used coln, with Palestine 1918-44 EEF, ovpt, p.dues, covers with Jerusalem cancel, OHMS, censor, early Israel, etc. (L) £120

ICELAND

570
Click to view full image... Parallel M/UM & FU colns in album, incl 1911 Sigurdsson set FU, 1914-18 King Christian set FU, 1921-30 surch vals incl 10k on 2k FU, 1934 Air set FU, 1944 Proclamation set FU, 1956 Power Plants set UM (2), through to 1960s. (See photo) (V) £270
571
Click to view full image... 1907-8 set to 5k FU. (SG 81-95) Cat £500 (See photo) (S) £100

IRAN

572
  1957-8 200r ochre and deep violet UM block of 4 (SG 1138) Cat £440 (S) £75

ISRAEL

573
  Mainly UM untidy accum from 1950's-1980's incl seln of complete sheets incl 1953-56 airs vals to 3000r, single sets/vals from 1952, 1960's-70's with tabs in pkts, 1995-9 Year books etc. (½B) £80

ITALY

574
  Misc collection in album and stockbook, a little duplication but incl some rare and very highly catalogued classics, typically mixed condition but incl 1870 p.due 2l brown and pale blue o.g. (Fiecchi cert), 1877 20c orange buff part o.g. (cert), 1879-82 set to 2l o.g./unused, 1889 set to 5l unused/o.g. with 45c o.g. (cert), 1890 2c on parcel post set o.g., 1878 surch officials 2c on 30c and on 2l unused (faults), 1912 St Marks pair M, 1922 Mazzini M, FU issues from 1862 incl 1863-5 vals to 2l, 1879-82 30c cto, 1890 surch set to 20c on 50c, parcel post surch set, 1901-26 to 10l, express stamps, 1912 St Marks, 1922 Phil Congress ovpt set with special cancels (signed on reverse), 1931 St Anthony set, 1935 Militia, then later to mid 1970's, p.dues with 1870-1925 vals to both 10l, etc. (2V) £1,200
575
  Early to modern mint and used collection in boxed album incl 1910 50th Anniv pair FU, National Plebiscite pair FU, 1911 Jubilee M, 1923 fascist March mainly M, 1926-8 Air set mainly M, 1928 Second Nat Defence set M, 1930 Virgil set mainly M, 1931 St Anthony M or FU, 1932 Garibaldi set mainly M, Fascist March M or FU, 1933 Holy Year mainly FU, 1934 Centenary M, 1935 Bellini M, 1937 Augustus Air set M, 1938 Proclamation mainly M plus comprehensive later ranges to 1958 incl 1949 Centenary 100l in a FU block of 4 etc. (V) £700
576
  1890-1989 M/UM coln in SG Davo album incl (M unless stated) 1911 Kingdom set, 1912 St. Mark, 1923 Fascist set, Blackshirt set, 1924 Holy Year set, 1928 Filberto set, 1929 Imperial set, 1930 Virgil Postage set, 1931 Padua set, 1932 Dante Postage and airs set, 1932 Garibaldi Postage and airs set, 1933 Zeppelin set, 1934 Football Postage and airs set, 1934 Military Medal Postage and airs set, 1938 Proclamation Postage and airs set, 1945-8 incl 30L blue, 1948 Revolution set, 1949 art set, Roman Republic 100L, UPU, Recovery Plan, 1950 vals to 100L, coln from 1955 apparently UM to early 1980's, Pneumatic Posts etc. (V) £500
577
  Mostly mint duplicated accum, sorted in glassine packets, some better earlier noted with 1921 Dante UM and M (3), Victory UM (2), 1923 Propaganda Fide UM, 2l myrtle and orange M/UM block of 4, 1935 Militia M, 1938 Proclamation postage set UM, 1941 Army UM, social republic 1944 GNR ovpts to 10l mainly UM incl 35c and 2l55, 1950 Provincial Workers 100l and 200l UM, 1951 Verdi UM, then from mid 1950's to 1980 mostly in UM blocks, parcel post 1914-22 vals to 10l and 20l M with 3l in M/UM block of 5 pairs, 4l in M/UM block of 7 pairs, 1924 money order stamps incl 40c UM block of 6 and 1l UM block of 9, airmails with better, BLP 1922-3 10c and 40c unused and 40c FU, official 1875 vals to 1l M, pneumatic post from 1913 with 1924-7 surch vals, express, etc. (T) £500
578
  Early-middle ranges in stockbook, M or U, incl 1863-5 15c and 40c apparently unused (poor), 2L FU (2), 1867 20c unused, 1879-82 30c U (defective corner), 1923 Black Shirt set M, back of the book with Servizio Commissioni 1913 and 1925 (surchs) sets of 3 M, p. dues 1870-1925 set of 18 FU, 1884 set M and FU, 1903 set M (100L sl staining), Segnatasse Per Vaglia 1924 set of 6 M, Parcel Post 1884-6 set M, Officials 1875 set FU, Air 1926-8 set (less 1.20) UM, some Venezia Giulia, some pmk interest etc. Very high cat value. (V) £240
579
  Range on leaves c1900-1930 with dupl defins, some with pmk interest, vals incl 1901 5L, also M/og (partially stuck down) incl 1923 Blackshirt set, Fascist set, 1911 Kingdom set. (R) £100
580
  1946 to 1989 UM collection in 2 printed hingeless albums incl 1949 Art Exhib 50l, UPU, European Recovery Plan, Mazzini, Alfieri, 1950 Levant Fair, 1951 Centenary, Auto Exhib, Textile Exhib, Gymnastic Festival etc. (2V) £150

ITALIAN COLONIES

581
  Italian Colonies. Early to modern mint and used collection in boxed album incl Aegean Is with 1912-21 range, 1929-32 no imprint 5l FU, 1938 Augustus Postage and Air set mainly FU(2), 1940 Exhib set mainly FU(2), 1944 War Victims set M, Eritrea 1907 Express 25c in M block of 4, 1916 Red Cross in M blocks of 4, 1922 ovpt set mainly FU, It. East Africa, It PO's in China with Tientsin 1917 set M, It PO's in the Turkish Empire with Janina 1909-11 set M, Libya with 1912-22 vals to 1l M, 1915 Express letter pair in M blocks of 4, 1915-6 Red Cross in M blocks of 4, 1921 vals to 10l FU, 1924 5l FU, 1937 Trade Fair M, Cyrenaica 1933 Zeppelin set in M blocks of 4, Tripolitania 1927 First Nat Defence set FU, 1931-2 Air set mainly M, 1933 Zeppelin set in M blocks of 4, Somalia with 1916 Red Cross set in m blocks of 4, 1934 Abruzzi set M, 1936 Air set FU, 1950-1 Air set FU, Jubaland 1925 Postage Due set (ex 1l) M plus a useful range of Fiume incl 1920 set mainly FU, 1921 Prov Govt ovpt 3l FU and 10l M etc. (V) £1,200
582
  Italian Colonies and Occupations. Mint and used collection in album incl good range of Cols General Issues with 1932 Garibaldi set M, 1933 Foundation set M, 1933 Fascist March set M, Aegean Is with 1932 Dante postage set FU, Albania, Cyrenaica with 1923 Fascist March set M, Eritrea with 192 ovpt set M, 1930 vals to 5l and 10l M, 1936 set M or FU, It East Africa with 1938 Air vals to 10l M, Air Express pair FU, Libya with 1921 range incl 5l FU and 10l og, Somalia with Benadir ovpt range, 1935 to 5l+1l and 10l+1l.80 M, 1935 Exhib Air set FU, 1936 Air set M or FU, Jubaland 1925 vals to 10l M, Tripolitania with 1923 Fascist March M and a useful range of later Occupations etc. (V) £650
583
  Somalia. UM coln in printed album, with 1950-60 Italian trusteeship coln, incl 1950-1 Air set, 1950 Parcel set in pairs, also FDC, Republic incl 1960 ovpt trio, through to 1981. (V) £150
584
  Somalia. 1927 Volta 50c UM, with double ovpt, exp by Diena on reverse. (Sa 110a) Cat €220 (F) £20

JAPAN

585
Click to view full image... 1952 no wmk issue 100y fine M and 500y UM. Rare stamps. (SG 506-7) Cat £1200 (See photo) (S) £200

LATVIA

586
Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image... Excellent early to modern misc collection in Lighthouse hingeless album, leaves to 2011 and fairly comprehensive to 1994, from 1918 in mixed condition, with Arms perf/imperf, 1919 sets to 75k M/FU, 1920 RX on various papers M/FU, surches incl 1921 to 100r on 50k FU, air pair imperf M, 1923-6 to 10l FU, 1925 300th Anniv M/FU, 1927-33 to 5l FU, 1928 Cakste M, Liberty Fund perf and imperf M/FU, 1929 Meierovics perf and imperf M, 1930 Rainis perf and imperf M, Anti-TB plus 1931 surch set M, 1931-2 airs incl surch vals M/FU, Militia sets perf and imperf M, Airs perf and imperf M incl 1932 Eagle, Pioneers, 1933 Wounded Airmen all 3 issues, Africa Flight ovpt set, 1938 M/S plus ovpt, etc to 1940, then 1991-94 all FU. Popular material, perfect for expansion. (See photos) (V) £650
587
  1919 Liberation of Courland plate proofs, showing outer frame, value and dragon, most in imperf sheets of 30, on wove ungummed paper, with 25k in dull blue and in deep blue and 35k in brownish black (5 full sheets and part sheet of 24), providing a total of 234 proofs. (R) £120

LIBYA

588
Click to view full image... Libya. 1937 real photo postcard depicting General Italo Balbo, the pioneer aviator and Governor of Libya, and American aviator Charles Lindbergh, at the aviation ground at Mellaha. The card is written in the hand of, and signed by, Italo Balbo. Lindbergh visited Balbo after Balbo's successful mass formation flight to the 1933 Chicago Century of Progress Exposition. Balbo was shot down and killed by "friendly" Italian fire in 1940. (See photo) (R) £300

LIECHTENSTEIN

589
  Well presented mint collection, in Biella album, mainly M from 1912 set, 1915 issue on reg cover, 1921 set P.12½ to 15r and 20r to 1f, 1924-5 10r and 30r, 1924-7 to 1½f, 1925-7 Birthday sets, 1928 Flood, 1929 Accession, 1930 Airs, 1931 Zep pair, 1933 Birthday, 1934 Views set, Birds, 1935 60r surch, 1936 Zeps, 1937-8 Views (2), 1939 to 5f, Birds, 5f sheetlet of 4, 1940 to 3f, 1941 10f Madonna UM, 1944 Views, 1945-7 both 5f, 1946 St Lucius, 1946-7 Animals, 1948 Air Pioneers, 1949 Paintings, 1951 Agriculture, 1951-4 Paintings, 3f P.14½ UM, 1952 1f20 surch UM, 1954-8 Sports sets M/UM, 1954 Madonna, then to 1972 M/UM, officials from 1932 set M, 1933 25r and 1f20, 1934 set (25r in red and black), etc to 1966, p.dues, etc. (V) £500
590
  Early to modern M/UM/FU coln with light dupl, from 1912 trio M (2)+FU, 1925 85th Birthday trio FU (2), 1930 Air set M, 1932 Official ovpt vals M incl 10r p.10½, 50r p.11½, 1936 Zeppelin pair M, then good seln of sets to 1980. (R) £350
591
Click to view full image... 1934 Vaduz M/S, UM but with adhesion on margin, stamp is UM, small dealers h/s on reverse. (SG MS144) Cat £2750. See photo. (S) £350
592
  1946 St Lucius 10f corner marg UM. (SG 251) Cat £90 (F) £15
593
  1952 5f Castle corner marg UM. (SG 304) Cat £250 (F) £40

LITHUANIA

594
  1938 Olympiad set FU cto x8. (SG 420-23) Cat £560 (R) £40

LUXEMBOURG

595
Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image... Exceptional early to modern collection in pair of KaBe hingeless albums, mint and used with duplication providing shades and cancels from classic period, huge cat value and perfect for specialist, typical mixed condition, classics with varied margins etc, from 1852 10c (4) and 1sgr (6) FU, 1859-63 set from 1c (2), 12½c (4), 25c (3), 37½c (3) and 40c FU, 1865-71 roul vals FU, 1865-75 set (less 37½c) with shades unused/FU, from 1c (22) to 30c and 40c (8), 1872 1f surch FU (2), 1874 imperf 4c green M, 1874-80 defins range, 1882 5f M, 1891-3 set M/FU, 1906-19 set incl 2½f FU, 5f M, then later with excellent defins and commems substantially complete, 1921-23 incl 10f UM, M and FU (2), Charity sets duplicated mint and some FU incl 1928 and 1929 Child Welfare FU, 1935 Intellectuals M, 1936 Phil Congress FU, 1939 20th Anniv M/S UM and M, 1950 Orphans M, 1951 Europe UM, 1952 Centilux M/UM, 1956 and 1957 Europa sets UM, issues from mid 1960's to 2005 largely UM, later new issues to 2010 in packets, officials from 1875-80 incl roul 40c M, 1f surch, both large and small type ovpts FU, perf issues good range M/FU, later incl 1882-4 ovpt set M, 1893-6 vals to 5f M, p.dues, etc. Needs careful checking. (See photos) (2V) £1,400
596
  Middle period duplicated FU collection on leaves, incl 1914-21 to 5f (2), 1923 War Memorial, 1931 20f (2), 1934 5f (3), 1924 Death (2), 1925 Anti-TB (2), 1927 Phil Exhib (2), Child Welfare sets from 1926-33 and 1936-7 all x 2, 1934, 1935 and 1938 single sets, 1935 Intellectuals to 1f75c, 1936 Congress (3), 1938 Abbey (2), 1939 20th Anniv set, 1944-6 set (2), etc. Odd fault, but impressive, cat £5300+. (L) £250
597
  Early to middle period mint and used collection on leaves incl useful early range, 1930 Child Welfare M, 1931-3 Air set FU, 1931 Child Welfare set mainly M, 1932 Child Welfare M, 1933 Child Welfare FU, 1934 5f FU, Child Welfare M, 1935 Child Welfare M or FU and later issues to 1939 incl Charlotte min sheet UM. (L) £120
598
  Early to modern mainly FU collection in 2 stockbooks, high cat value, condition in earlier period is mixed, with 1852-8 10c and 1sgr, 1859-63 vals to 40c, then roul and perf vals, various issues, 1882-4 vals to 1f, 1891-3 to 5f, 1914-21 vals to 5f, 1923 War Memorial set, 1924 Death ovpt set, 1925 Anti-TB, Child Welfare sets from 1926-1930 and 1935-7, 1936 Congress, 1938 Abbey, 1939 Cent, 1945 War Victims, 1946 Dudelange M/S, St John, 1947 Abbey on piece, Patton, later Welfare sets, 1951 Europe (less 2f50), 1956 Coal and Steel, 1956 and 1957 Europa, the mainly FU with a few FDC, to circa 2000. (2V) £120

MEXICO

599
Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image...Click to view full image... Civil War Issues. Misc collection on leaves of this interesting and seldom offered material, some forgeries so offered on its merits, but with better noted incl general issues incl 1914 monogram ovpt vals incl p.due set M, on 1910 vals to 20c M, Sonora Coach Seal range plus "EC" vals, Oaxaca, Acambaro 1914 vals to 1p M, Aguascalientes 1914 vals to 1p M, Durango, Irapuato, Zacatecas, Torreon, Monterrey vals to 1p M, 1915 general issues with imperf colour trials of 40c (3), 1p (13) and 5p (4), 1895 official set to 10p, in black with red ovpts M, 1914 (2 June) fiscal set to 100p blue M, etc. (See photos) (L) £200

MONACO

Auction Details - AUCTION ALREADY HELD
Philatelic Auction (Public Auction Sale 753)
Auctioneer: Warwick & Warwick Location: Lord Leycester Hotel, Jury Street, Warwick, CV34 4EJ
Contact: Tel. Warwick (01926) 499031 Fax (01926) 491906
Date: 5th November 2014 Time: 12:00PM
Details: Viewing:
Friday 31st October, 2014 9.00 a.m. - 4.30 p.m.
Monday 3rd November, 2014 9.00 a.m. - 4.30 p.m.
Tuesday 4th November, 2014 9.00 a.m. - 4.30 p.m.
Wednesday 5th November, 2014 8.30 a.m. - onwards
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